Some of the most difficult people to recognize are those who know how to make a good impression.

In this conversation with Lisa Bilyeu on Women of Impact, I explore the psychology behind manipulation, deception, and dark personality traits. I explain how people can use charm, strategic behavior, and information to influence others, and why these patterns aren’t always obvious until damage has already been done.

The discussion covers Machiavellianism, narcissism, psychopathy, and sadism, along with practical ways to recognize concerning behavior, question first impressions, and establish healthier boundaries.

**Watch the full conversation below.**